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10 Stupid Decisions That Killed Great TV Shows
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TMC
2013-04-22 23:21:16 UTC
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Television is a volatile business where everything can change in an
instant. But the core tenet of television production is making wise
decisions. At the heart of everything you’ll ever see on television is
a single decision. Sometimes they’re good ones like “Let’s give The
Black Adder another try”, sometimes they’re terrible ones like “Let’s
make a sitcom about Hitler”, and sometimes they’re stupid ones that
kill great programmes before their time.

Here are ten of those decisions…


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Professor Bubba
2013-04-23 02:44:05 UTC
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Television is a volatile business where everything can change in an
instant. But the core tenet of television production is making wise
decisions. At the heart of everything you¹ll ever see on television is
a single decision. Sometimes they¹re good ones like ³Let¹s give The
Black Adder another try², sometimes they¹re terrible ones like ³Let¹s
make a sitcom about Hitler², and sometimes they¹re stupid ones that
kill great programmes before their time.
Here are ten of those decisionsŠ
Read more at
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Batman is #10 on the list. True, NBC put out a feeler about continuing
Batman, but it doesn't seem to have been more than half-hearted. The
destruction of the standing sets could easily have been explained away
as a devastating attack on the Batcave, which would necessarily have
destroyed stately Wayne Manor above it. Batman and Robin could then
have operated out of an apartment in town, which is what they wound up
doing in the comics anyway around 1970.

In his memoir Back to the Batcave, Adam West says he was tired of the
part and was more than ready for the series to end. He also notes that
producer William Dozier's attention had drifted elsewhere.
David Johnston
2013-04-23 18:00:09 UTC
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Television is a volatile business where everything can change in an
instant. But the core tenet of television production is making wise
decisions. At the heart of everything you’ll ever see on television is
a single decision. Sometimes they’re good ones like “Let’s give The
Black Adder another try”, sometimes they’re terrible ones like “Let’s
make a sitcom about Hitler”, and sometimes they’re stupid ones that
kill great programmes before their time.
Here are ten of those decisions…
Read more at http://whatculture.com/tv/10-stupid-decisions-that-killed-great-tv-shows.php#cZWRuWSEQJdeXx9q.99
Frankly there were so many bad decisions in the second season of Heroes
that I'm not sure it belongs on the list. Earth 2 was a failure from
the get-go. While the retool might have been a stupid idea, it was
going to be cancelled anyway. But the Great Gazoo was unquestionably a
stupid decision.
William December Starr
2013-04-25 01:55:58 UTC
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Earth 2 was a failure from the get-go. While the retool might
have been a stupid idea, it was going to be cancelled anyway.
Do you mean failure as in bad, or failure as in never attracted
enough eyeballs?

I kind of liked it. I don't think NBC ever did, though.

-- wds
anim8rFSK
2013-04-25 05:36:58 UTC
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Post by William December Starr
Earth 2 was a failure from the get-go. While the retool might
have been a stupid idea, it was going to be cancelled anyway.
Do you mean failure as in bad, or failure as in never attracted
enough eyeballs?
I kind of liked it. I don't think NBC ever did, though.
-- wds
I liked that the opening was done on a Mac. Deborah Farentino never
worked for me, but Jessica Steen sure did.
--
"Every time a Kardashian gets a TV show, an angel dies."
Ian J. Ball
2013-04-25 05:48:05 UTC
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Earth 2 was a failure from the get-go.  While the retool might
have been a stupid idea, it was going to be cancelled anyway.
Do you mean failure as in bad, or failure as in never attracted
enough eyeballs?
I kind of liked it.  I don't think NBC ever did, though.
I liked that the opening was done on a Mac.  Deborah Farentino never
worked for me, but Jessica Steen sure did.
Uh, Rebecca Gayheart, anyone?!
anim8rFSK
2013-04-25 12:40:03 UTC
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Post by William December Starr
Earth 2 was a failure from the get-go.  While the retool might
have been a stupid idea, it was going to be cancelled anyway.
Do you mean failure as in bad, or failure as in never attracted
enough eyeballs?
I kind of liked it.  I don't think NBC ever did, though.
I liked that the opening was done on a Mac.  Deborah Farentino never
worked for me, but Jessica Steen sure did.
Uh, Rebecca Gayheart, anyone?!
Sure, if you want somebody to kill your children.
--
"Every time a Kardashian gets a TV show, an angel dies."
Ian J. Ball
2013-04-25 15:37:16 UTC
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Post by William December Starr
Earth 2 was a failure from the get-go.  While the retool might
have been a stupid idea, it was going to be cancelled anyway.
Do you mean failure as in bad, or failure as in never attracted
enough eyeballs?
I kind of liked it.  I don't think NBC ever did, though.
I liked that the opening was done on a Mac.  Deborah Farentino never
worked for me, but Jessica Steen sure did.
Uh, Rebecca Gayheart, anyone?!
Sure, if you want somebody to kill your children.
But, 20 years ago, she would have *looked great* doing it!! ;p
anim8rFSK
2013-04-25 17:59:12 UTC
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Post by Professor Bubba
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Post by William December Starr
Earth 2 was a failure from the get-go.  While the retool might
have been a stupid idea, it was going to be cancelled anyway.
Do you mean failure as in bad, or failure as in never attracted
enough eyeballs?
I kind of liked it.  I don't think NBC ever did, though.
I liked that the opening was done on a Mac.  Deborah Farentino never
worked for me, but Jessica Steen sure did.
Uh, Rebecca Gayheart, anyone?!
Sure, if you want somebody to kill your children.
But, 20 years ago, she would have *looked great* doing it!! ;p
IIRC, her nitwit husband on Earth 2 sort of rendered them both useless.
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"Every time a Kardashian gets a TV show, an angel dies."
William December Starr
2013-04-26 01:12:38 UTC
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In article <anim8rfsk-***@news.easynews.com>,
anim8rFSK <***@cox.net> said:

[ re Rebecca Gayheart on "Eart 2" ]
Post by anim8rFSK
IIRC, her nitwit husband on Earth 2 sort of rendered them both
useless.
I had the feeling that one of planned longer-range bits of the
show was him changing over time into a mensch.

-- wds
David Johnston
2013-04-25 15:33:09 UTC
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Post by William December Starr
Earth 2 was a failure from the get-go. While the retool might
have been a stupid idea, it was going to be cancelled anyway.
Do you mean failure as in bad, or failure as in never attracted
enough eyeballs?
I kind of liked it. I don't think NBC ever did, though.
I didn't much much like it but I don't account shows to be failures
based on personal taste, but in business terms. And in business terms,
Earth 2 didn't attract an adequate-sized audience.
William December Starr
2013-04-26 01:26:41 UTC
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Post by William December Starr
Earth 2 was a failure from the get-go. While the retool might
have been a stupid idea, it was going to be cancelled anyway.
Do you mean failure as in bad, or failure as in never attracted
enough eyeballs?
I kind of liked it. I don't think NBC ever did, though.
I didn't much much like it but I don't account shows to be
failures based on personal taste, but in business terms. And in
business terms, Earth 2 didn't attract an adequate-sized audience.
True. If I recall correctly though, NBC crippled it by pre-empting
it noticeably more than most shows, and on top of that in the
Eastern market it got pushed back from its scheduled start time by
fooball game-overrun at least twice. (NBC carried the NFL back in
those ancient days.)

Yeah, I am remembering correctly -- the epguides.com listing,
annotated by me, says:

1 1-01 06/Nov/94 First Contact (1)
2 1-02 06/Nov/94 First Contact (2)
3 1-03 13/Nov/94 The Man Who Fell to Earth (Two)
4 1-04 20/Nov/94 Life Lessons
5 1-05 27/Nov/94 Promises, Promises
6 1-06 04/Dec/94 A Memory Play
7 1-07 11/Dec/94 Water
8 1-08 18/Dec/94 The Church of Morgan

(Absent or rerun two Sundays in a row due to Christmas and New Year's Day)

9 1-09 08/Jan/95 The Enemy Within

(Absent or rerun on Jan 15)

10 1-10 22/Jan/95 Redemption
11 1-11 05/Feb/95 Moon Cross

(Absent or rerun on Feb 12)

12 1-12 19/Feb/95 Better Living Through Morganite (1)
13 1-13 26/Feb/95 Better Living Through Morganite (2)
14 1-14 05/Mar/95 Grendlers in the Myst
15 1-15 12/Mar/95 The Greatest Love Story Never Told

(Absent or rerun on Mar 19)

(By here, NBC had probably already decided to give up on the show)

16 1-16 26/Mar/95 Brave New Pacifica
17 1-17 02/Apr/95 After the Thaw

(Absent or rerun on Apr 9 and Apr 16)

18 1-18 23/Apr/95 The Boy Who Would Be Terrian King
19 1-19 23/Apr/95 Survival of the Fittest

(Absent or rerun on Apr 30, May 7, and May 14)

20 1-20 21/May/95 All About Eve
21 1-21 28/May/95 Natural Born Grendlers
22 1-22 04/Jun/95 Flower Child

-- wds
Jim Hawkins
2013-09-15 10:29:42 UTC
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Television is a volatile business where everything can change in an
instant. But the core tenet of television production is making wise
decisions. At the heart of everything you'll ever see on television is
a single decision. Sometimes they're good ones like "Let's give The
Black Adder another try", sometimes they're terrible ones like "Let's
make a sitcom about Hitler", and sometimes they're stupid ones that
kill great programmes before their time.
Here are ten of those decisions.
Read more at
http://whatculture.com/tv/10-stupid-decisions-that-killed-great-tv-shows.php#cZWRuWSEQJdeXx9q.99
Did the powers that be drop that wonderful pair, John Bird and and
John Fortune - or did they decide to quit television ?

Jim Hawkins

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