Discussion:
What Bush and Batman have in common
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TM
2008-07-27 14:52:10 UTC
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Wall Street Journal Opinion

A cry for help goes out from a city beleaguered by violence
and fear: A beam of light flashed into the night sky, the
dark symbol of a bat projected onto the surface of the
racing clouds . . .

Oh, wait a minute. That's not a bat, actually. In fact,
when you trace the outline with your finger, it looks kind
of like . . . a "W"...

Continued: http://atu.ca/BushBatman
Steven L.
2008-07-27 16:25:00 UTC
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Post by TM
Wall Street Journal Opinion
A cry for help goes out from a city beleaguered by violence
and fear: A beam of light flashed into the night sky, the
dark symbol of a bat projected onto the surface of the
racing clouds . . .
Oh, wait a minute. That's not a bat, actually. In fact,
when you trace the outline with your finger, it looks kind
of like . . . a "W"...
Don't laugh.

Conservatives, who are accustomed to dissing most of what comes out of
Hollywood, have been very enthusiastic about "The Dark Knight." (cf.
reviews in National Review and The Weekly Standard.)

"The Dark Knight, like Batman himself, takes a dim view of
liberal...pieties. Nolan's argument is that the invisible ropes binding
us together are not as strong as we might like, or imagine. A snip here,
a cut there, and our rules begin to break down. Liberalism is
well-suited to managing the competitions and collisions of liberal
peoples. But it can be fatally ill-equipped for confrontations with
those not grounded in the same basic traditions."

http://www.weeklystandard.com/Content/Public/Articles/000/000/015/328xilsf.asp

They see Batman fighting the Joker the same way they saw Dick Cheney
fighting Osama bin Laden: You have to fight fire with fire. The
legalistic civilized niceties of modern civilization can't deal with a
genuine terrorist like the Joker bin Laden. So you gotta go beyond the
letter of the law and use extrajudicial measures. Like Batman. Or the
Bush Administration.
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Steven L.
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Red Cloud
2008-07-27 17:00:18 UTC
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Post by TM
Wall Street Journal Opinion
A cry for help goes out from a city beleaguered by violence
and fear: A beam of light flashed into the night sky, the
dark symbol of a bat projected onto the surface of the
racing clouds . . .
Oh, wait a minute. That's not a bat, actually. In fact,
when you trace the outline with your finger, it looks kind
of like . . . a "W"...
Don't laugh.
Conservatives, who are accustomed to dissing most of what comes out of
Hollywood, have been very enthusiastic about "The Dark Knight." (cf.
reviews in National Review and The Weekly Standard.)
"The Dark Knight, like Batman himself, takes a dim view of
liberal...pieties. Nolan's argument is that the invisible ropes binding
us together are not as strong as we might like, or imagine. A snip here,
a cut there, and our rules begin to break down. Liberalism is
well-suited to managing the competitions and collisions of liberal
peoples. But it can be fatally ill-equipped for confrontations with
those not grounded in the same basic traditions."
http://www.weeklystandard.com/Content/Public/Articles/000/000/015/328...
They see Batman fighting the Joker the same way they saw Dick Cheney
fighting Osama bin Laden: You have to fight fire with fire. The
legalistic civilized niceties of modern civilization can't deal with a
genuine terrorist like the Joker bin Laden. So you gotta go beyond the
letter of the law and use extrajudicial measures. Like Batman. Or the
Bush Administration.
--
Steven L.
Remove the NOSPAM before replying to me.
Usually a mainstream American politic is for the dummy.
argento32
2008-07-27 19:56:35 UTC
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Post by Steven L.
Post by TM
Wall Street Journal Opinion
A cry for help goes out from a city beleaguered by violence
and fear: A beam of light flashed into the night sky, the
dark symbol of a bat projected onto the surface of the
racing clouds . . .
Oh, wait a minute. That's not a bat, actually. In fact,
when you trace the outline with your finger, it looks kind
of like . . . a "W"...
Don't laugh.
Conservatives, who are accustomed to dissing most of what comes out of
Hollywood, have been very enthusiastic about "The Dark Knight."  (cf.
reviews in National Review and The Weekly Standard.)
"The Dark Knight, like Batman himself, takes a dim view of
liberal...pieties. Nolan's argument is that the invisible ropes binding
us together are not as strong as we might like, or imagine. A snip here,
a cut there, and our rules begin to break down. Liberalism is
well-suited to managing the competitions and collisions of liberal
peoples. But it can be fatally ill-equipped for confrontations with
those not grounded in the same basic traditions."
http://www.weeklystandard.com/Content/Public/Articles/000/000/015/328...
They see Batman fighting the Joker the same way they saw Dick Cheney
fighting Osama bin Laden:  You have to fight fire with fire.  The
legalistic civilized niceties of modern civilization can't deal with a
genuine terrorist like the Joker bin Laden.  So you gotta go beyond the
letter of the law and use extrajudicial measures.  Like Batman.  Or the
Bush Administration.
--
Steven L.
Remove the NOSPAM before replying to me.
Usually a mainstream American politic is for the dummy.
When I see the Bush administration I see the similiarities..to the
blood lust and insanity of the Joker...
Terry McCombs
2008-07-28 00:28:57 UTC
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Post by Steven L.
Post by TM
Wall Street Journal Opinion
A cry for help goes out from a city beleaguered by violence
and fear: A beam of light flashed into the night sky, the
dark symbol of a bat projected onto the surface of the
racing clouds . . .
Oh, wait a minute. That's not a bat, actually. In fact,
when you trace the outline with your finger, it looks kind
of like . . . a "W"...
Don't laugh.
Conservatives, who are accustomed to dissing most of what comes out of
Hollywood, have been very enthusiastic about "The Dark Knight."  (cf.
reviews in National Review and The Weekly Standard.)
"The Dark Knight, like Batman himself, takes a dim view of
liberal...pieties. Nolan's argument is that the invisible ropes binding
us together are not as strong as we might like, or imagine. A snip here,
a cut there, and our rules begin to break down. Liberalism is
well-suited to managing the competitions and collisions of liberal
peoples. But it can be fatally ill-equipped for confrontations with
those not grounded in the same basic traditions."
http://www.weeklystandard.com/Content/Public/Articles/000/000/015/328...
They see Batman fighting the Joker the same way they saw Dick Cheney
fighting Osama bin Laden:  You have to fight fire with fire.  The
legalistic civilized niceties of modern civilization can't deal with a
genuine terrorist like the Joker bin Laden.  So you gotta go beyond the
letter of the law and use extrajudicial measures.  Like Batman.  Or the
Bush Administration.
--
Steven L.
Remove the NOSPAM before replying to me.
Usually a mainstream American politic is for the dummy.
When I see the Bush administration I see the similiarities..to the
blood lust and insanity of the Joker...- Hide quoted text -
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Indeed

http://politicalhumor.about.com/library/images/blbushjoker2.htm
Martin Phipps
2008-08-01 15:32:34 UTC
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Post by Steven L.
Post by TM
Wall Street Journal Opinion
A cry for help goes out from a city beleaguered by violence
and fear: A beam of light flashed into the night sky, the
dark symbol of a bat projected onto the surface of the
racing clouds . . .
Oh, wait a minute. That's not a bat, actually. In fact,
when you trace the outline with your finger, it looks kind
of like . . . a "W"...
Don't laugh.
Conservatives, who are accustomed to dissing most of what comes out of
Hollywood, have been very enthusiastic about "The Dark Knight."  (cf.
reviews in National Review and The Weekly Standard.)
"The Dark Knight, like Batman himself, takes a dim view of
liberal...pieties. Nolan's argument is that the invisible ropes binding
us together are not as strong as we might like, or imagine. A snip here,
a cut there, and our rules begin to break down. Liberalism is
well-suited to managing the competitions and collisions of liberal
peoples. But it can be fatally ill-equipped for confrontations with
those not grounded in the same basic traditions."
http://www.weeklystandard.com/Content/Public/Articles/000/000/015/328...
They see Batman fighting the Joker the same way they saw Dick Cheney
fighting Osama bin Laden:  You have to fight fire with fire.  The
legalistic civilized niceties of modern civilization can't deal with a
genuine terrorist like the Joker bin Laden.  So you gotta go beyond the
letter of the law and use extrajudicial measures.  Like Batman.  Or the
Bush Administration.
Then they missed the point. The point of the movie was not about
Batman or the Joker but about Harvey Dent needing to stay true to his
own values in the face of insanity. If you "fight fire with fire"
then everything burns. The Bush administration is an example of a
conservative administration that threw conservative fiscal values out
the window in order to finish the war that daddy had already pulled
out of.

Martin
Johnnie In The Billows
2008-08-02 14:21:19 UTC
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Post by Steven L.
Post by TM
Wall Street Journal Opinion
A cry for help goes out from a city beleaguered by violence
and fear: A beam of light flashed into the night sky, the
dark symbol of a bat projected onto the surface of the
racing clouds . . .
Oh, wait a minute. That's not a bat, actually. In fact,
when you trace the outline with your finger, it looks kind
of like . . . a "W"...
Don't laugh.
Conservatives, who are accustomed to dissing most of what comes out of
Hollywood, have been very enthusiastic about "The Dark Knight."  (cf.
reviews in National Review and The Weekly Standard.)
"The Dark Knight, like Batman himself, takes a dim view of
liberal...pieties. Nolan's argument is that the invisible ropes binding
us together are not as strong as we might like, or imagine. A snip here,
a cut there, and our rules begin to break down. Liberalism is
well-suited to managing the competitions and collisions of liberal
peoples. But it can be fatally ill-equipped for confrontations with
those not grounded in the same basic traditions."
http://www.weeklystandard.com/Content/Public/Articles/000/000/015/328...
They see Batman fighting the Joker the same way they saw Dick Cheney
fighting Osama bin Laden:  You have to fight fire with fire.  The
legalistic civilized niceties of modern civilization can't deal with a
genuine terrorist like the Joker bin Laden.  So you gotta go beyond the
letter of the law and use extrajudicial measures.  Like Batman.  Or the
Bush Administration.
Then they missed the point.  The point of the movie was not about
Batman or the Joker but about Harvey Dent needing to stay true to his
own values in the face of insanity.  If you "fight fire with fire"
then everything burns.  The Bush administration is an example of a
conservative administration that threw conservative fiscal values out
the window in order to finish the war that daddy had already pulled
out of.
They chucked oil all over my trousers.
That80sGuy
2008-09-09 16:34:04 UTC
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Post by Martin Phipps
The Bush administration is an example of a
conservative administration that threw conservative fiscal values out
the window in order to finish the war that daddy had already pulled
out of.
Actually the Project For The New American Century was in place prior to
9/11 or Iraq. There never WAS a "conservative administration" under GWB.
Jorge Duhbya Arbusto, POTUS (Retired)
2008-09-10 12:01:49 UTC
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Post by Martin Phipps
The Bush administration is an example of a
conservative administration that threw conservative fiscal values out
the window in order to finish the war that daddy had already pulled
out of.
Actually the Project For The New American Century was in place prior
to 9/11 or Iraq. There never WAS a "conservative administration"
under GWB.
Duhbya's just a neocon puppet, IOW.
That80sGuy
2008-09-10 14:17:57 UTC
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Post by That80sGuy
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Post by Martin Phipps
The Bush administration is an example of a
conservative administration that threw conservative fiscal values out
the window in order to finish the war that daddy had already pulled
out of.
Actually the Project For The New American Century was in place prior
to 9/11 or Iraq. There never WAS a "conservative administration"
under GWB.
Duhbya's just a neocon puppet, IOW.
Well SOME of the people in control of W's administration are "neocons,"
some are long-time interventionist conservatives (as opposed to the
traditional non-interventionism of Thomas Jefferson and Ron Paul). The
true definition of a "neocon" is a former liberal who switched party
allegiances from D to R starting about the time that the Democrats
nominated McGovern. They had supported a war-first foreign policy through
Lyndon "I'll give you your G*d damned war" Johnson but went GOP as McGovern
embraced an end-the-war, non-interventionist philosophy.

The first wave of true neocons included Paul Wolfowitz, Doug Feith, Richard
Perle, Jeane Kirkpatrick and Irving Kristol (father of Bill). Many who are
labelled as "neocons," including Cheney, Rumsfeld and McCain, are not;
they're simply life-long rabidly pro-war Republicans who have joined
neocons to broaden their combined influence - for example McCain's advisors
include neocons John Bolton (former UN Ambassador), Max Boot (Wall Street
Journal) and Robert Kagan (ironically a Senior Associate at the Carnegie
Endowment for International Peace).

What all these people have in common, including McCain and Barack Obama as
well, is that they are members of the Council On Foreign Relations,
described thusly by Rear Admiral (and former CFR member) Chester Ward:

"The main purpose of the Council on Foreign Relations
is promoting the disarmament of U.S. sovereignty and
national independence and submergence into an all powerful,
one world government."

God ate my homework
2008-07-28 03:22:51 UTC
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Post by TM
Wall Street Journal Opinion
A cry for help goes out from a city beleaguered by violence
and fear: A beam of light flashed into the night sky, the
dark symbol of a bat projected onto the surface of the
racing clouds . . .
Oh, wait a minute. That's not a bat, actually. In fact,
when you trace the outline with your finger, it looks kind
of like . . . a "W"...
Continued:http://atu.ca/BushBatman
Ha ha ha. And Rupert Mordoch has tainted yet another media giant.

Bush is our hero? Someone who lies, who cheats, who constantly has
his dad bail him out is our hero. Someone who avoid going to war but
has no trouble sending others to war. Someone who breaks laws because
he thinks that the laws don't apply to him. This is our hero? A
lying coward?
Johnnie In The Billows
2008-08-01 11:33:44 UTC
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Post by TM
Wall Street Journal Opinion
A cry for help goes out from a city beleaguered by violence
and fear: A beam of light flashed into the night sky, the
dark symbol of a bat projected onto the surface of the
racing clouds . . .
Oh, wait a minute. That's not a bat, actually. In fact,
when you trace the outline with your finger, it looks kind
of like . . . a "W"...
Continued:http://atu.ca/BushBatman
Ha ha ha.  And Rupert Mordoch has tainted yet another media giant.
Bush is our hero?  Someone who lies, who cheats, who constantly has
his dad bail him out is our hero.  Someone who avoid going to war but
has no trouble sending others to war.  Someone who breaks laws because
he thinks that the laws don't apply to him.  This is our hero?  A
lying coward?
Mind you, his face would be better if it were covered with a mask.
Jerry Kraus
2008-08-01 15:37:03 UTC
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Post by TM
Wall Street Journal Opinion
A cry for help goes out from a city beleaguered by violence
and fear: A beam of light flashed into the night sky, the
dark symbol of a bat projected onto the surface of the
racing clouds . . .
Oh, wait a minute. That's not a bat, actually. In fact,
when you trace the outline with your finger, it looks kind
of like . . . a "W"...
Continued:http://atu.ca/BushBatman
In exactly the same issue of the Wall Street Urinal, they complained
because Obama wasn't acknowledging the 'obvious truth that Baghdad
today is in exactly the same position as Berlin in 1948'. Uh, yeah,
right. Maybe with George Bush as Stalin, and the United States as the
Soviet Union, and Iran as the U.S. circa 1948! But, I don't quite
think that's what they meant.
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