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2012-06-21 08:31:19 UTC
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« Reply #3 on Jun 19, 2012, 8:20pm »
For one thing, 1940s Batman didn't have qualms with using a gun.
« Reply #7 on Jun 19, 2012, 8:54pm »
1939: Solo, kept a gun with him in his utility belt (but didn't use it
much), and didn't hesitate to kill during his fights (and no remorse,
to boot). No Batmobile yet.
1940-1964: The more kid-friendly Batman...no gun, always smiling,
Robin added as his partner, and we get the Rogues Gallery (with Joker
and Catwoman being the first additions...1939 gave us Hugo Strange
already). We get introduced to the Batmobile (which went through many
changes over the years) and the Bat Cave (which was inspired by the
1943 movie serials, even though the idea of the Bat Cave was
introduced in a 1942 comic). The 1966 Batman TV series is comparable
to this, but with the costume being closer to the 1964-present (at the
time) look.
As mentioned, the 1970's gave us the darker and most recognizable
version of Batman, which would later be the basis for the 80's comics,
along with the 1989 Batman movie. From there, we'd have the comics,
movies, and The Animated Series all inspiring each other in some way.
Except for Batman and Robin...cause no one wants to be inspired by
that.
« Reply #5 on Jun 19, 2012, 8:35pm »
Jun 19, 2012, 8:17pm, JDviant wrote:
Mid-70's, with writers like Denny O'Neil and Steve Englehart
Ding ding ding. Most of the stuff we associate with modern Batman
comes from Denny O'Neil's run.
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« Reply #20 Yesterday at 10:51pm »
Jun 19, 2012, 8:17pm, JDviant wrote:
Mid-70's, with writers like Denny O'Neil and Steve Englehart
THIS. I hate how often people try to give all the credit to Frank
Miller. O'Neil and Englehart whom you mentioned as well as Len Wein
are the true talent behind the current incarnation of Batman. Those
guys are the ones who gave us the version of Batman that became the
standard-bearer for what Batman is. Batman: The Animated Series'
version of Batman was almost 100% composed of those writers' version
of the character.
I'm not trying to take anything away from Frank Miller, but as a comic
fan I've just heard him get all the credit for making Batman serious
again far too often. It'd be like people crediting The Rock with the
Attitude Era and pretending that Steve Austin had nothing to do with
it.
« Reply #3 on Jun 19, 2012, 8:20pm »
For one thing, 1940s Batman didn't have qualms with using a gun.
« Reply #7 on Jun 19, 2012, 8:54pm »
1939: Solo, kept a gun with him in his utility belt (but didn't use it
much), and didn't hesitate to kill during his fights (and no remorse,
to boot). No Batmobile yet.
1940-1964: The more kid-friendly Batman...no gun, always smiling,
Robin added as his partner, and we get the Rogues Gallery (with Joker
and Catwoman being the first additions...1939 gave us Hugo Strange
already). We get introduced to the Batmobile (which went through many
changes over the years) and the Bat Cave (which was inspired by the
1943 movie serials, even though the idea of the Bat Cave was
introduced in a 1942 comic). The 1966 Batman TV series is comparable
to this, but with the costume being closer to the 1964-present (at the
time) look.
As mentioned, the 1970's gave us the darker and most recognizable
version of Batman, which would later be the basis for the 80's comics,
along with the 1989 Batman movie. From there, we'd have the comics,
movies, and The Animated Series all inspiring each other in some way.
Except for Batman and Robin...cause no one wants to be inspired by
that.
« Reply #5 on Jun 19, 2012, 8:35pm »
Jun 19, 2012, 8:17pm, JDviant wrote:
Mid-70's, with writers like Denny O'Neil and Steve Englehart
Ding ding ding. Most of the stuff we associate with modern Batman
comes from Denny O'Neil's run.
http://officialfan.proboards.com/index.cgi?board=offtopic&action=display&thread=435251&page=2
« Reply #20 Yesterday at 10:51pm »
Jun 19, 2012, 8:17pm, JDviant wrote:
Mid-70's, with writers like Denny O'Neil and Steve Englehart
THIS. I hate how often people try to give all the credit to Frank
Miller. O'Neil and Englehart whom you mentioned as well as Len Wein
are the true talent behind the current incarnation of Batman. Those
guys are the ones who gave us the version of Batman that became the
standard-bearer for what Batman is. Batman: The Animated Series'
version of Batman was almost 100% composed of those writers' version
of the character.
I'm not trying to take anything away from Frank Miller, but as a comic
fan I've just heard him get all the credit for making Batman serious
again far too often. It'd be like people crediting The Rock with the
Attitude Era and pretending that Steve Austin had nothing to do with
it.